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for the debt ceiling in the first place, allowing spending in effect to go up and up and up without the artificial cap that the debt ceiling is indeed. democrats are explaining this in a press conference right now as we speak, so we'll be learning a lot more about it as the day progresses. republicans obviously deeply opposed to this thing, fearful that democrats will indeed use it to allow spending to go up and up. here is senator john barrasso speaking on fox news this morning. >> we have a spending problem in this country. people all across the country know it. they know it in wyoming. families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it is time for the senate and the house and the president to get serious about limiting our spending and specifically the wasteful spending that continues. >> reporter: earlier this week we heard from house majority whip, minority whip, i should say, steny hoyer, increased revenues, more spending has to be part of any debt ceiling deal. that is a sentiment echoed by the president on numerous occasions since he was r
of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised. time now is 6:40. coming up, a terrifying turn of events in spain, a woman faints and falls in the path of a train, who came to her rescue. >>> the market just opened ten minutes ago, let's get a quick look at the early numbers here. our boards are not, woulding but we'll get an update from jason brooks. holly quan, holly quan a woman in spain faints and falls onto train tracks... she is rescued just as a subway is >>> caught on video, a woman in spain faints and falls onto train tracks and is rescued as a subway train is approaching. this happened yesterday in madrid. an off-duty police acted immediately. at the same time, people on the platform waved frantically to tell the train operator to stop. the woman's condition is unknown. >>> nonstop flights between san jose and tokyo are on hold through next monday. al nippon airways is grounding 787 dream liner aircraft, investigators are trying to address potential fire risk after incidents of battery- related smoke and heat damage. >>> tomorrow al
the fiscal position with the debt ceiling and spending negotiations still yet to really happen. and this is just another headwind that the economy seems to be having to face. with that in mind, you know, people are getting optimistic that we'll see a second half recovery. but that's almost in a way hope. there's nothing out there which really -- >> i've said it before, and i'll say it again, but i've heard the second half recovery issues every year. >> every year since the gfw. >> and to be honest with you, we're not seeing anything tangible out there which would indicate, yes, there's definitely going to be a second half pick up. we're expecting 2% growth this year overall. i think the risk is on the down side as opposed to the upside. >> how do you trade that? do you stay away from stocks? >> well, yes. at the moment in short-term, yes. we look at the economic growth potential pushing the rating up and with the corporate earnings still mixed, we think fundamentals are a little bit vulnerable. we think sentiment got quite bullish, which is normally a contrariry sign and we thi
not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved." joining us is amy kremer, chairwoman of the tea party express. thanks for coming in this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> safe bet you're against raising the debt ceiling without spending cuts. >> the problem is the spending cuts never come. the republicans find themselves in the situation all the time t happened with reagan and bush 41 and with the sequester, it's been put off for two months, the spending cuts never come and we cannot continue down this path with over $16 trillion in debt, and a deficit of $1.4 trillion to $1.6 trillion per year. we're spending $1.6 million per year than we're bringing in. >> you've accused the president of using scare tactics. what do you mean by that? do you think he's lying about what could happen? >> the thing is, you know what, first of all it's not congress that determines if we default. it's the treasury s
the debt ceiling hostage over spending cuts, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke said there is no practical purpose to the debt ceiling and it is a device to prevent the u.s. from paying its bills. why are we watching washington fight over it? maybe we should get rid of it. here is susan occhs, american banker columnist and former senior advisor to president obama and stephen hayes, "weekly standard" and fox news contributor. i will ask you both and, susan, start with you. does it serve a purpose? >> it really doesn't. this is kind of a belt and suspenders operation. if congress wants input how much money to be spent, there are 13 congressional committees that spend appropriations bills that spend money. this is time to have the conversation. they're holding economy hostage. what was benign in the system is now become dangerous. melissa: has to be reason, stephen? says belts and suspenders. maybe we have own our belt has fallen off and this is all we have left. >> so only tempting to go with the pants down met at that far. melissa: i laid that up to you. you needo spik
and the debt ceiling. the president simply will not offer any compromise on federal spending that might get a debt deal done. on guns as we just heard, is he threatening executive orders. so i think the president simply wants to damage the republicans rather than solve complicated problems, at least at this juncture. joining us from washington with his take fox news political analyst charles krauthammer. i see it as a chess game. rather than both parties working together to get some gun legislation that might help folks control criminals in that area and rather than getting the debt ceiling done with some, you know, meaningful cuts in spending, the president says, you know, i'm not even going to bother. i want to alienate the republicans so that people will be angry with them. am i wrong? he has been doing that since elections day, i wrote a column ever since september pointing out entire strategy for the fiscal cliff was to split the republicans. it had nothing to do his offers had nothing to do with solving the fiscal issue or solving the debt. he showed nothing to solve the debt since he
stay with us. ♪ ♪ gerri: republicans go for a short-term increase in the debt ceiling, but how can we tackle ♪ gerri: retreating or regrouping? house republicans putting to a vote raising the debt ceiling for three months, but are they backing off of their demands for spending cuts in exchange for raising the debt limit? with more on this, grover norquist, president for americans for tax reform. great to have you here. other republicans doing the right thing? >> i think so. there are three tools the republicans have to force obama to focus on spending, which she does not want to do it and will do unless forced. first is the sequester which starts march 1st or 2nd. that is a hundred billion dollars per year. that is the real cut in spending that will happen. the other one is the continuing resolution which starts march 4/7. we have a continuing resolution. they are the republicans that can put obama on a very short leash and only give him a continuing resolution for a week for two or three. cut the spending each time. those are two very powerful mechanisms. gerri: you don't in additi
, quote, we are not out of the woods yet, calling ongoing battles over spending cuts and the debt ceiling critical watersheds. >>> elsewhere, a troubling new report finds more than one in four workers are dipping into retirement funds to keep up with their current bills. apparently folks in their 40s are most likely to do that. >>> some good news, though, on the housing front. new numbers show home prices rose 7.5% in 2012, the most in six years thanks to improving demand and fewer foreclosures. >>> swiss group swatch is adding some sparkle to the brand, scooping up harry winston's luxury line of jewelry and watches for about $1 billion. >>> toyota has once again dethroned general motors as the world's top-selling automaker, selling just under 10 million vehicles last year. >>> coca-cola is taking some heat for its new ad campaign encouraging people to come together to fight obesity. critics say coke is just doing damage control to combat its own contribution to the country's growing obesity problem. >>> we'll find out what facebook's big mystery is in a much-hyped media event today. rumo
off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling has raised. it's a move the president has demanded. >> i do believe it is a recognition of political reality. i think we realize the president won the election. >> reporter: but republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a highe debt limit, they want senate democrats to do something they haven't done in four years -- pass a budget. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt, we've got to have the focus be on a budget and what we're going to do to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> reporter: senate democrats view the vote as an opportunity to raise more money for taxes. >> it's going to be a great opportunity for us. in our budget we lift budget reform which many of my republican colleagues like, but it's going to include revenues. >> reporter: the house is expected to approve the debt limit increase tomorrow. no dollar amount specifically is in the bill, but the legislation is expecte
increases debt ceiling. it allows the federal government to pay for spending it already approved. they say deficit reduction is different argument and they're now proposing eliminating the debt ceiling. >> we must not permit an artificial debt ceiling to throw the country into default and our economy into chaos and depression which is exactly what the republicans are threatening to do. it is time to abolish the debt ceiling and our levels of taxation and spending will be set as they always have been by congressional action. >> republicans argue washington has linked several increase in the debt ceiling to deficit reduction deals. it serves as reminder how much the government has borrowed. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell writes, over the past three decades in fact u.s. presidents and lawmakers from both parties routinely used the debt limit debate to reform government spending. washington democrats under pressure from their favored interest groups continue to adhere to an outdated ideology that says every penny of revenue washington ever got its hands on is sacrosanct. house republic
the debt ceiling without cutting government spending. we have learned tonight that former cycling champion lance armstrong is in discussions to return a part of the millions of dollars that his team received from the u.s. postal service. and he has indicated a willingness to testify against others involved in illegal doping. armstrong's u.s. postal sponsorship prohibited doping. last year armstrong was stripped of his titles after an investigation found systemic drug use on the team. the associated press is reported tonight that in an interview today with oprah winfrey, armstrong admitted that he used performance-enhancing drugs. recently we spoke to travis tygart the head of the. is anti-doping agency in his only interview for the showtime program "60 minutes" sports it was tygart who made the case against armstrong. some of the words that you used in outlining your case wereck "drug possession," "trafficking "coverup," "conspiracy." you describe lance armstrong as "the enforcer." pretty tough stuff.us >> serious business. the evidence was serious.or >> reporter: why did you use those wor
to raise the debt ceiling what they think the debt ceiling represents, and it represents all this spending that i think that democrats are comfortable with, they believe that government bureaucrats can spent their money better than tax payers can spend their own hart earned dollars, i disagree with. neil: that brings you to brinkmanship games, the fact that we keep playing the same game. we never address the underlying spending. >> well, and that is why what john campbell just said did show a lot of little bit rally courage to say -- political courage to say public he is willing to shut down the government to force the president's hand, that is something that very few republicans are willing to do. i heard my liberal friend. neil: it will never come to that. >> i don't think if will, i think they will make a deal. john campbell, is a stan out guy, and for him to say that we have do it now, because, the longer we put it off, the harder it will become when we come face-to-face with a fiscal realty of fact we borrow 40-cents on every dollar we spend. that is huge amount of borrowing, right ne
, raising the debt ceiling does not say we are increasing spending. in any way whatsoever. it does not mean spending. what it means is -- congress authorizes spending. they demand spending on defense or on whatever the program happens to be. a new war. a new tax cut for the rich. they demand the spending. and then they have to -- it comes time to pay the bills. raising the debt ceiling means we agree we're going to pay the bills that congress has already spent. right? we're going to pay for the stuff that congress has already bought. as a president i thought it was an excellent analogy yesterday. you don't go to a restaurant and order a fine meal and then say i'm going to start cutting back right now. i'm not going to pay for that meal. you already ate it, babe! right? >> that's right. how fiscally conservative for them to say we're not going to pay that. let's just clear up this false equivalency that i think it was the first or second question who made the point at the press conference yesterday well, you voted against the debt ceiling in 2006 so what's the deal? look this is -- 2010 -- 2
, in march, government spending does run out. they would focus on a longer-term debt ceiling increase sometime in april or may. that is the strategy from house republicans. president obama says he has not even entertained any type of negotiations. republicans should agree to raise the debt ceiling because having to raise it is the result of appropriations already passed and signed into law. back to you. melissa: thanks so much. ashley: here with reaction to the gop when it peter welch. thank you for joining us. you say, look, republicans are making it an "economic weapon of mass distraction." do they get is a continuation of that? >> it is actually progress for the republican confidence, but it is not progress for the country. that tack tick is not one that they can hold onto because they know it will plunge this country into a deeper recession. they have been -- it is a way to say they are avoiding. ashley: it really is not addressing the issue, though, what will it take to get that in place. i know that you, of course, have been leading the charge to have the president to prevent th
in both the house and senate is that they will only increase the debt ceiling by the amount of spending cuts that they are able to push lou. congress has not been able to identify $1.2 ril onin cuts they are happy with. >> p obama's warning on the debt ceiling will republicans be able to use the debt ceiling debate as leverage to get big spending cuts? or will it be on the government funding? jinx me is congressman greg walden. member of the leadership and joins me now. congressman, good morning. >> good morning, chuck. good to be with you. >> nice to see you. let me ask you about this issue of whether the debt limit should be used as leverage or whether you are trying to convince your members to say, you know what, the better place to have a debate with the president about spending cuts is on funding with the government. >> first of all, chuck, you just wish the president weren't so adversarial in his tone and the way he deals with the congress. you know, in the past -- >> let me stop -- wait a minute. let me stop threw. >> a lot of people will say adversaryial relationships are a woul
the debt ceiling exist in the first place. does it serve any function? >> it doesn't. essentially, the one function it does serve is members of congress can be hypocritical. they can vote for spending. and then pretend a year later when the bill comes due that they don't have to pay for it. and berate the excessive spending. it is really a tool for constant and unrelenting hypocrisy by congress. if we pass a budget, when we do, that's what affects the debt ceiling. if you pass a budget and there's a trillion dollars that will be spent on iraq and you have no way to pay for it, the debt becomes due and you've got to pay that bill. so the debt ceiling has been abused frankly by both parties but in the past, it has been about hypocrisy and grandstanding. now it is actually about defaulting on our bills. so congressman nadler and i and others are saying hey look, it is time to be straight with the american people. if we vote for a budget that requires cuts or revenues, then at the moment we vote for the budge set when we have to take responsibility for the consequences. >> john: sir, yesterday
strings on the debt ceiling to use that at the a lever and give the president to stop spending? >> i didn'tsay that the man at the day. they just moved it back. gerri: what do you think? should they use the debt ceiling? >> ultimately, short. two tools that are very real and very powerful coming up. obama has tried to demonize the debt ceiling. okay. set it back with a condition. okay democrats in the senate. you have not passed a budget in three years. the reason why the democrats have control of the senate is that harry reid has said democratic senators in the witness protection program with ever -- whenever budget issues come up. twenty democrats are up for election in 2014. half of them should not be coming back of the continue to vote with obama on tax and spend crazy debt policies which is what they have been doing. i think it is very important for the american people see what the senate has not done and to force them to act but that. gerri: you sure can't act -- argue with that. the senate has not passed a budget and 1,361 days. let me get a comment. it would stop pay to members o
to a number of republicans. they will fight on issues of spending and debt and debt ceiling. they are not ruling out. democrats have a ten-point advantage, 55-45. you only need 40. there could be a real showdown if the republicans stick together. they say they are not in the mood to, essentially, they say compromise on things that are poor principles for them. they are more geared up to fight and take on some of these legislative battles. for the next four years we will see. we will have another midterm election that could change the makeup of the house and senate again. that will have a big impact on his last two years in office as well. neil: we are just getting a shot at sasha and melia, the president's daughters. they have grown in the last four years. and his mother in law. this is the first president in more than a generation who has his mother-in-law living at the white house. good or bad, he has his mother-in-law living at the white house. that should be, at some levels, admired. it is what it is. she is very instrumental in raising the girls and keeping them grounde
of representatives. i hope they delay the debt ceiling for three months and address spending in the house. that is what they will have to win. >>neil: they addressed that and they said earlier the move to delay the debt ceiling for another few months to me it seems like kicking the can down the road. i guess they think that maybe in that time they will get their act together but i am not so sure. >> i am not either, i am worried about the house of representatives. it is supposed to be the loyal opposition, and they supposed to compromise and work with the budget and work with the senate and make things happen but i worry very much if they retreat too far and collapse and cave. that would be a very major mistake to the united states. >>neil: quickly, art, did ronald reagan like the parades if maybe the second was indoors, everything was indoors that year, maybe the parade. but did he like the parades? that is something that comes with being a newly inaugurated president, did he enjoy it? >> he didn't enjoy the second. in 1985, it was the coldest year ever in history and it was amazing. no
by gun violence you are fooling yourself. >> the debt ceiling debate continues. >> are not aead beat nation. >> we all know the issue here is spending. >> what are the risks of huge defense cuts? >> operations, maintenance, and trading will be gutted. we will ground the aircraft retuturn chips to court, and sharply curtail training across the force. >> a bill before the wyoming state legislature would make a federal legend a person trying to enforce a ban on farm guilty of a funny. there are similar measures under considation in nnessee and tetexas. the governor in mississippi wants to make it illegegal in the state to enforce any new federal n laws. how many tis have we had this debate? ththis time after the murders of the children in newtown, conn. the president tells us is different. signed 23 executive orders aimed at reducing gun violence and has urged congress to reinstate a ban on so-called assault weapons, limit the size of the magazines, and mandate criminal background checks for all and sales. he is also o asking americans to put heat on members of congress to get there. >>
're not calling for any spending decreases in this debt ceiling increase. the white house put out a statement said it would not oppose a short-term debt deal though neither getting real specific whether or not they would actually agree to what the house is hoping to pass tomorrow. back to you. david: rich, reading through that, frankly didn't take too long to read through the president's speech because it was so short, there was no indication, i saw no incation, one reference to the deficit, a throwaway line said we have a big deficit. we have to do something bit, with you we still have to continue with all the spending. i didn't see anything about cutting back on spending. did you? >> no, david. in fact that was more a defense of government in the president's speech, overarching theme of his governing philosophy and one has not been about cutting any type of enlightment spending when it comes to medicare, medicaid and social security and cutting benefits those receive. lauren: i am president, hear me roar. rich edson, working in washington, d.c. you have to invest in tylenol right? an advil. you'
the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires discipline, responsibility and compromise. >> dana: yet, he showed little willingness to do so. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to world war i, everybody was paid. the debt we incurred was paid for through various bonds. world war i to wo
ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have party been racked up, and we need to pay them. so while i am willing to compromise and find common ground for how to reduce the deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks, veterans benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or honor our contracts with small-business owners. food inspectors, air traffic controllers, specialists who track down loose nuclear materials would not get their paychecks. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america is in fact a safe bet. markets could go haywire. interest rates would spike for anyone who borrowed money. every homeowner with a mortgage, every student with the business -- every student with t
that are raising alarms from demanding republicans immediately raise the debt ceiling and lori about that pesky out of cotrol spending later to considering as many 19 different gun-control measures that he could in force as he gears up for his comprehensive plan tomorrow. our president seems to think of himself like a king and said that our elected officials. joining me now, former adviser to president george w. bush. senior fellow at the cato institute. i will start with you. here is the president back in 2006 on the idea of raising the debt limit. he said, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of our leaders failing in the u.s.overnment cannot pay its own bills and i intend to oppose the effort to increase the debt limit to and here he is begging for the debt limit to be raised now hat he is president. >> i think that he was right several years ago when he talked about the size of fiscal irresponsibility, but all of a sudden he seems to think it is just a wonderful, peachy keen idea. gerri: irresponsible thing to do . brad, to you. i am -- i went back an
the debt ceiling raised with no commitment to spending cuts in the future, if he gets a ban of assault weapons, ammunition, more stringent background checks that this will divide the republican party. say they squeak it through in the house say boehner makes it happen. which i don't think he's going to by the way. then the republican party fractures it becomes weaker. the strategy the president is employing is i am not going to compromise on the debt ceiling. i don't know what he will do on gun control but don't compromise on the debt ceiling. do it by executive order and then say it is your fault. either way he gets the republicans. if they pass they get weakened if they oppose they demonize. >> it is a smart political strategy. >> it could be but it worked so far but not 100 percent. remember republicans got control of the house of representatives during his term after his first two years when he was very aggressive about his initiatives and they kind of stopped him in his tracks. he can't do very much over there. if you resist him i am not sure that's true on guns, bill. gun control
the president says he will negotiate on spending cuts but not on the debt ceiling. mark matthews is here now with more on what sat stake. >> republicans in the house say they won't raise the debt gmu and president agree to corresponding cuts. the president outlined the stake autos the president began by defining the issue. >> debt keeling is not a question of authorizing more spending. it allows the country to pay for spending that congress is committed to. >> he said americans understand the concept. >> you don't go out to dinner and... then, you know eat all you want. and then... leave without paying a check. >> if you do that, it's against the law, said the president. he added if congress fails to raise the debt ceiling american people will pay the price. >> social security checks and veteran benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or honor our contracts with small business owner autos again and again, the president repeated the fact raising the debt ceiling only allows for payment of bills that congress has already racked up. but when we went out to talk with res
unconstitutional, and an extension of the debt ceiling for about three months which is okay. . it doesn't really go to the heart of the matter. we're going to have a report on this whole story in just a moment. . meanwhile, better news, the stock rally continues up 54 points on the dow, 161 points for the week. get this, a 35% gain in the broad s&p 500. . just since early october 2011. that's right. it's like a stealth rally. it keeps on moving. we'll talk to a leading investment ceo a bit later in the program. . first up, in williamsburg, virginia, today, house republicans have agreed to take up the plan next week to extend the debt ceiling with some conditions. i think that's boring and uninspiring. let's go to the source of this cnbc contributor robert costa. . . i think it's boring, boring, boring. you tell why this is a great. are not attached to this proposal. very three months. let me say this, from all my reporting down there in eastern virginia default on the debt. so what they're trying to do is just punt on the debt ceiling and focus the spending cut fight on the upcoming continuing reso
not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating, shane, i know how we can improve our credit rating. we will pay your credit card bills. that is not the best way to improve your credit rating. all of these issues are important, but it is very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its bills. >> and number of people have expressed concern about how much of the chill news were addressed in the deal. it went part way, but it leaves a number of issues still on the table and negotiations are looming. would you characterize that as an additional cliff that is facing us? or is it not as concerned as it was when you raised that term initially? >> as i said, the fiscal kloof, if allowed -- the fiscal clef, if allowed to take place, would probably create a recession this year. a good part of that has been addressed. but nevertheless, we have a set of a restrictive fiscal policies now. federal fiscal policy will subtract from real gdp gro
the spending, he says spending is separate from the debt ceiling in his mind. if he doesn't create spending or a spending cut, what happens? we've come to a stand still? >> look, the first move, the house republicans, the house has to move first, and i think we've got to show the country we're serious about curbing back spending and we've got to send that over to the senate and the senate has to act. remember, it's more than three or four years now since the senate has actually passed a budget. not only do we have problems getting a budget out of the white house, but the democrats are producing-- >> you're working this out for me. you send it over to the senate, what happens. >> the classic let's not wait till the deadline. the senate has to act. if week show in the house we're acting responsibly, curbing back spending and putting ourselves on a trajectory and cutting the deficit and over the course of time balancing the budget we'll be the responsible party. >> greta: the president says he's not going to do that. >> the president says i'll be irrelevant. >> greta: that's going to put us at
debt ceiling, which will come into play. so we will be seeing a lot of activity in the next few months, debates about people criticize the government, about the size of the deficit, and it a lot of back and forth over these three issues. without going into all the different ramifications, i want to say one word about the debt ceiling, which is not everybody understands what the debt ceiling is about. the debt ceiling -- raising the debt ceiling, which congress has to do periodically, gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. it does not create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit ratings and i know how we can save money, we will not pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling
card limit to pay its bills. >> we are not a deadbeat nation. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> reporter: and with washington once again careening toward a fiscal crisis, this one involving debt and spending, the president made it clear he intends to stand firm. >> if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans' benefits will be delayed. >> reporter: the president acknowledged republicans could end up shutting down the government if he doesn't yield on spending cuts. but he warned against it. >> i think it would be profoundly damaging to our economy. i think it would actually add to our deficit, because it will impede growth. >> reporter: another more immediate political fight for the president, confirming his pentagon nominee, chuck hagel, a republican, who got a boost on "meet the press" sunday from former republican secretary of state, colin powell, who used the occasion to take a larger, deeper shot
a mistake by trying to link the debt ceiling to a deal on spending cuts. >> in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we're in a position that we can't, in fact, in the end enforce our will. because we have no evidence of president obama's going to compromise. i think the president is deliberately seeking confrontation. he's going out of his way to bully the house republicans. >> and allen simpson, the co-founder of the campaign to fix the debt, also warning against bargaining over the debt ceiling. >> do you believe the gop should be using the debt ceiling as a leverage point to get the president to agree to the cuts? >> i think that would be a grave mistake. i don't think that would solve anything. i know they're going to try it. how far we'll go, i have no idea. if you're a real conservative, really honest conservative without hypocrisy, y
spending cuts in exchange for raising thehe debt ceiling-- at least for now. it was partly a recognition that multiple showdowns over the debtcb and spending have hurt the g.o.p.'s standing with voters. a cbs news poll released lastal week found americans trust the president over congressional econ republicans to handle thea republic economy by 15 points.r john thune is a republican senator from south dakota. was this what the republicanrepublican party saying we're going too operate a little differently in a second president obama term?ell, i thi >> well, i think -- i do believe it's a recognition of politicalde reality. the pre we realize the president won the election and i -- so i think to some degree it was a recognition that for us to have a debateav about spending and debt we'vewe got to have the focus be on a and wha budget and what we're going to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> pelley: and that's why thee republicans have attached a caveat to their debt ceiling bill. they want senate democrats to do something they haven't done since 2009: pass a budget putting them on t
in the house want spending cuts if the debt ceiling is raised. >>> on wall street, stocks traded mostly sideways as the markets finished mixed. dow industrial gained 18 points. nasdaq dropped 8 weighed down by a decline in apple. the company saw its stocks slump following report apple has cut orsd for iphone 5 components. the report suggests demand for the iphone 5 stagnated relatively quickly. stokss dripped below 500 down $18 and change or 3 and a half percent. apple's all-time high is 700. >>> a bay area pizza chain is giving money back to its workers. ahead in eight minutes how the mistakes it made will be swallowed by customers. >>> the 2013 lease will be priced at just below 29 thousand tlrs. that's a 6 thousand $reduction from the previous model year. based on production of the e lek tris lease sold in the u.s. to tennessee to japan. >>> it's the confession many people have been waiting for. seven-time tour de france winner lance armstrong reportedly admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs. associated press said armstrong confessed in an interview today with oprah winfrey a
not negotiate on the debt ceiling although he said he's open to more spending cuts but he insisted the u.s. is, quote, not a dead beat nation. officials in stratford, connecticut, plan to rename an elementary school in honor of victoria soto, a teacher killed in last month's newtown school shooting. officials say she died trying to shield her students from the gunman. >>> walmart will announce a plan to hire every veteran cha wants a job, which could mean 100,000 new jobs. >>> george w.h. bush was released from the hospital after a month. >>> william paul, son of kentucky rand paul, faces charges of assaulting a flight attendant on a january 5th flight. in addition to underage drinking and other charges. >>> the chicago transportation authority is suing united airlines, claiming they are buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid playing close to $300,000 in sales taxes. >>> students at university of vermont should not bring bottled water when they return to campus because the school banned its sale for environmental reasons. they are the largest public university to prohibit bottled water on
to you and you will not be touched by gun violence, you are fooling yourself. >> the debt ceiling debate continues. >> the real issue here is, we all know, is spending. >> what are the risks of huge dispense cuts? >> operation commitment, and trading will be gutted. we will ground aircraft, return ships to port, and sharply curtail training across the force. >> a bill before the while the state legislature would make a federal legend try to enforce a ban on arms federal -- guilty of a felony. there are similar measures in texas. the governor of mississippi want to make it illegal in the state to makin force any new gun laws. how many times have we had this debate? this time after the massacre in connecticut, the president says it is different. the president has said 23 executive order is aimed at reducing gun violence and is urging congress to reduce -- and it back crunchers' for all gun sales purity is also asking americans to put heat on members of congress to get there. >> ask for a member of congress if they support universal back rent checks to keep guns out of the wrong hands. if t
republicans, who want to tie the debt ceiling to cutting spending and obama says blow up the economy and risk the full faith and credit of the united states and to do so is irresponsible, the consequences of not paying our bill would be disastrous. the charges went on and on and on and made it sound like only an anarchist would oppose raising the debt ceiling. listen to this: . >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people, the threat that unless we get our way, unless you gut medicare or medicaid or otherwise slash things that the american people don't believe should be slashed, that we're going to threaten to wreck the entire economy. look, i don't think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here. democrats don't like voting for the debt ceiling when the republican's president, but you never saw the situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go ahead and default if we didn't get 100% of our way, that's just not how it's supposed to work. >> sean: hearing that i can't help, but be reminded of obama's record on the
the debt ceiling but the increase must be tied to major spending cuts. only 23 percent think it should be raised with no strings attached. that is what the republicans are considering. stay withs numbers just a moment now. we want to show you president obama will begin the second term with much less support than he had four years ago. the president's approval rating is 47 percent . 47 percent disapproving. compared to this time four years ago when his approval rating was 65 percent and only 16 percent disapproved. president obama kicking off three days of celebrating by encouraging people to volunteer. he himself put in work at washington elementary school as part of the national day of service. molly? >> harris we can talk about what the president said in the national day of service. it was a chance for people to look out for each other and work hard on behalf of each other. he said this to the happens of volunteers in the elementary school working to give it a make over. >> as i look around the room, i see friends from all over the country people who have just been great supporters o
they will allow the debt ceiling to be hiked and try to attach some spending cuts or at least say we need to be engaged in negotiations for further increase in debt hike. i think that was a recession for republicans in reality they were losing this argue uchlt. it reengineers to the point that 60 percent of americans think you have to have spending cuts right now. >> you listen to the president's senior advisor today he was talking again about a balanced approach saying whatever deal on the debt ceiling has to have tax loopholes closed. speaker boehner brought the 800 billion in loop whole closures in the beginning of the fiscal cliff negotiation that should be a part of this deal. despite the fact that the president wanted rate increase on the fiscal deal and that's all they want. >> you can see the democrats and white house believe they have the argument in their back pocket. they offered once they can call on it again if they are going to concede on any spending cuts. none have been discussed at least in the short term are going to solve the problem. the only way you solve the problem
on together in the coming weeks. not the least of which being be expiring debt ceiling and spending issues. he did not talk about that. he did not reach out, and they were disappointed in that yesterday. both sides feel the other is not doing enough to reach out. host: on twitter -- guest: it is interesting, because when the election ended, the speaker offered what he considered an olive branch on the negotiations in saying they would put some tax revenue on the table. it cannot go their way. they were backing down. at this point the speaker needs to be careful about his own leadership, but you will see last compromise on his part because the conference of republicans are expecting him to stand up more to the president on issues important to that. they will not go for a tax increase. they will aim for spending cuts that they felt they did not get in the summer. in that sense, we are calling to see the two sides butting heads more in the coming weeks. guest: probably most striking change in tone between the address that president obama delivered esther date and the one he delivered four years a
off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised, a move the president has demanded. >> it's believe it's a recognition of political reality. we realize the president won the election. >> republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a higher debt limit, they want senate democrats to do something they have not done in four years, pass a budget. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt we've got to have the focus be on a budget and what we're going to do to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> senate democrats view a vote as an opportunity to raise more money through taxes. >> it's going to be a great opportunity for us, because in our budget that we will pass, we will have tax reform which many of my republicans like but it will include revenue. >> the increase will likely happen tomorrow. >>> one other provision of the debt limit vote is either chamber of congress fails to pass it, the members will not
dollar of the debt ceiling goes to spending of that same amount. they've conceded they're going to extend the debt ceiling without any cuts. but that moves us to now where government funding expires on march 31th. at that point, we'll have a s w showdown in which republicans insist on spending cuts. there will still be some kind of fight. we will have a clock to some kind of catastrophic event that could happen, like we had in december. but it would not be with the debt ceiling. the republicans seem to have conceded to the obama. they're worried that obama has the stronger hand on that particular issue. >> what do you think the gop strategy is here, shirra? >> i think they realize that their caucus cannot handle another divisive fight. there are too many factions within the caucus. they don't want another public fight about it. so they're kicking the can down the road and hope things will be more in their favor by then. >> i spoke to some folks on the set this morning, one of whom said they think it's going to be kick the can down the road again, even after this three-month reprieve. do
and climbing back to the debt ceiling debate, in 2012 # coming into 2013 were concerns about consumer spending. government numbers out, retail sales better. does that give you hope? is that why you are bullish at this point for 2013? >> yes. i mean our economy plods along and improves looking at real estate, consumer spending, major purchases such as auto. once again, i make the statement that once washington gets out of the way, we really think that the financial markets based upon where our economy is at this point opposed for a very positive run up, bumpy all be it, that it will be. cheryl: all right. s&p target, 1600 to 1700 this year. the " b" as in bull with you. thank you. good to see you. >> thank you, cheryl. dennis: facebook shares up over 1% today, $31 and change. an hour before a mystery announcement on a product. speculation there may be a smart phone or a search engine or something else. joining us now, stern aggie senior research analyst, thank you for being with us. what's your bet? >> my pleasure. my bet is it's going to be -- yeah, i think it's going to be a search engine typ
a handle on spending, period? >> i don't agree. 9 debt ceiling is money that has been appropriated by congress. the republicans have agreed to this spending. now what we are talking about is making sure that the government has enough money to pay for t. the republicans, if they didn't want the spending, they should have fought with the democrats to prevent the budgets from being approve in the first place. i think what -- most countries in the world don't have a debt ceiling. when government -- when the congress and their equivalent appropriates the money, the government has the borrowing authority to pay for the imra money they borrow. ben bernanke said yesterday, we have to stop having these dibait overs the debt ceiling, it's a stupid idea. the head of the federal reserve. i think the democrats are frustrated. i think that's why they passed this bill -- >> neil: where was their frustration 7 years ago, when the folk who is were urging this very action today voted against raising the debt ceiling when george bush was president? where was the great constitutional resolve? >> i don
spending and also get the fiscal house in order rather than having it attached to the debt ceiling fight. >> thank you very much, mark. see you in d.c. for the inauguration. and have a great weekend, buddy. >> you, too. >>> up next from manti te'o's high hopes to lance armstrong admitting he's lied to us for years, should the scandals mat tore the men and women in washington? why they say d.c. lawmakers should be concerned about those two stories. at 1:45, the aflac duck was brought in with multiple lacerations to the wing and a fractured beak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell phone? aflac, but i doubt he'll be using his phone for quite a while cause like i said, he has a fractured beak. [ male announcer ] send the aflac duck a get-well card at getwellduck.com. this is amazing, how did you find us? i thought we might be related, so i had a fiber analysis done
. >> raising the debt ceiling, which congress has to do periodically, gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effect of way to improve your credit rating. >> ben bernanke says the u.s. economy appears to be willing to raise the debt ceiling. it's downplaying fierce that this could lead to higher inflation. >>. >> what do you think? >> well, i think, you know, what we've seen in the beginning of the year, like the solution of the fiscal cliff for the fist time in the more global renegotiation, what bernanke know and the government is they don't want the economy to be in another recession. probably it's going to be a slow process, but the final aim is there and everybody knows where we need to go. >> all right. let's remind you what's on today's show. we take a look out at the auto show. 5:30 eastern. spain is set to tap the bond marke
and pushing us up against the debt ceiling. but remarkably, president obama is now calling for even more taxes, more spending, and more borrowing in return for any future spending controls. he said yesterday that we can't finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone. simply put, the president got his tax increases in the last congress. it's time for this congress to tackle washington's spending bing. i'd like to recognize the gentlelady from indiana. >> mr. chairman, my message otoday is simple. on too many big items, congress has been kicking the can down the road for years. it's time to supply real leadership on the most pressing challenges we face. this is the only way we can restore trust in congress. we're fast approaching a dead end. the social security trust fund will be bankrupt in 20 years. medicare and medicaid are not on a sustainable path. it is wrong for us to make proppingses to the american people we know we cannot keep. ms. brooks: we must address the drivers of our debt, medicare, medicaid, an social security. not because these programs don't have merit and
yourself. >> the debt ceiling debate continues. >> we are not a dead beat nation. >> we all know the issue is spending. >> what are the risks of huge spending cuts? >> operations, maintenance, and ading will be gutted. real ground aircraft, return chips to port, and sharply curtail training across the force. >> a bill before the wyoming state legislature would make a federal agent who tried to enforce a ban on firearms guilty of a felony. there are similar measures under consideration in texas and the governor of mississippi says he wants to make it iegal in the state to enforce any new federal gun laws. how many times have we had this debate? this time after the murders of the children in newtown, conn., the president tells us this is different. the president has signed 23 executive orders aimed at reducing gun violence and is urging congress to reinstate a ban on so-called assault weapons, limit the size on magazines, and mandate here are some background checks for all gun sales. he is also asking the public to put heat on members of congress. remembers of congress if they support univer
for linking p spending cuts to raising debt ceiling himself voted against raising the debt ceiling. here is what the anointed one said in 2006, said leadership means the buck stops here, washington is shifting burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and our grandchildren. er america has a debt, and a failure of leadership. americans deserve better, i, therefore, intend to oppose the efforts to increase american's debt limit so he is doing what he said shouldn't be done. but in doing so is demonstrating his morale superiority. the second thing we saw today is on full display he said republicans were sus spishus about social security and government support for the elderly and spending money on medical research, then, about programs aimed at making sure kids in poverty are getting enough to eat. now this, snot only deeply dishonest it's a gross distorgs. a lecture coming from a man responsible for a massive increase in poverty during his presidency. a third thing we saw is how deeply misunderstood his facts are. saying his plan would claim $4 trillion next decade but that
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people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. so do you disagree with speaker boehner? >> i think that if you get involved in a fight over the debt ceiling, and talking about defaulting which is what the consequences if the president's truly stubborn the congress is truly stubborn you get a default. at that point the pressure in the congress becomes a dead loser. all these different groups come together and say you have to pass this. i don't think we should pick fights where we are in a position where we can't, in fact in the end force our will. we have no evidence that barack obama will compromise. nothing he's done in the last couple months would imply that he's going to compromise. >> therefore do you agree that the president is right no in the negotiating? >> no, i think the president's wrong but it's a fact. i think this president is deliberately seeking confrontation, i think he's going out of his way to bully the house republicans and i think the house republicans ought to pick the continuing re
: raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a dead beat nation. >> stephanie: there you go, and who joining us now, but the representative jan schakowsky from the great state of illinois. >> good morning, i understand you have been getting some calls from my friends in chicago. >> stephanie: yes. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i thought the president put it very well, that you just cannot say it enough. the debt ceiling has nothing to do with budget cuts or anything going forward, it is paying bills that we have already racked up. >> that's so important. it's like getting your credit bill and saying, you know i'm protesting, i'm not going to pay it, because there are consequences, including your own personal credit rating will go down, and you'll get calls from checktors, and it will be pretty bad for you, worse of course for the federal government, and as the president pointed out social security veteran's benefits, they will all be delayed, might not be able to pay our troops or sma
of president obama, house republicans have floated a new plan they say will extend the debt ceiling for three months, but also cut congressional paychecks if mr. obama and the democrats don't agreed to deep spending cuts by april. steve handelsman says the gop has just grabbed the headlines two days before the inauguration. >> reporter: washington is almost ready. massive security, barriers going into place, bleachers along pennsylvania avenue for monday's inaugural parade. and the president atviewing stand, bulletproof and fancy, rebuilt every four years but since a huge crowd full of hope saw the first swearing-in, america has lowered its expectations. only 35% in the nbcs in/"wall street journal" poll says the country is headed in the right direction. as president obama's news portrayed is released, his approval stands at 52%. his likability at 61%, but only 29% say he is working effectively with congress. and today there's more conflict. responding to the president's declaration that he won't negotiate over the debt ceiling, republicans backed down. they raised the borrows limit but just
't create new deficit spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family that's trying to improve its credit rating. families that say, i know how we can save money, we won't pay her credit card bills. it was the sole solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 in the u.s. downgraded last time. so all these issues are important and it's very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in a deal, it certainly went part way, but leaves a number of issues still on the table. would you care to raise that as an additional fiscal cliff that is facing us? would you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raise that term initially? >> as i said the fiscal cliff, if it is allowed to take place, it probably would have traded a recession this year. a good bit of that has been addressed. nevertheless, we still have fairly restrictive fiscal policies now. it is estimated that fed
with the debt ceiling. here is some of what he had to say. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans' benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or honor our contracts with small business owners. markets could go haywire, interest rates would spike for anybody who borrows money, every homeowner with a mortgage. it would be a self-inflicted wound on the economy. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> well, the president has got to get past the debt ceiling in order to achieve his second term agenda, but how does he do it when some republicans are threatening shutdown? chuck todd and howard fineman. chuck, you know, i get the sense i was listening to the late general schwarzkopf, the man shaping the battlefield. he's basically saying if this government gets shut down a
ceiling at least for now, raising it without actual passing of the equivalent number of spending cuts. you have to get every dollar for debt ceiling increases. they say the debt ceiling, they know it doesn't give them real leverage but gives them an opportunity to give real messaging. they wouldn't provide a show-down where they say not raising it. they come to terms with having lost the election. charles krauthammer wrote today, the general rule is from the single house of congress, you can't impose, aren't you failing the country? the country chose obama, if you want to save the republic, save the next election. if your conservative philosophy is indeed right, winning will come. joining me now, robert costa, and dave weigel, both of them doing great reporting, i appreciate you being here. robert, i want to start with you, tell me the thinking behind the three-month extension, why three months? >> a lot of it has to do public relations, i think what i heard from the retreat, and members in the room, they want to start to win the pr battle again, to do it they have to take the debt limit o
, to demand spending cuts. they have backed off of that, looking at some plan to raise the debt ceiling at least for the next three months, to give some time for those talks to happen. and there is a big challenge in coming together, because the president still really feels like absolutely, the debt needs to be focus on, it's a huge issue, big priority, but it needs to be done in a balanced way so that all the spending cuts are not focused on programs for those who are most vulnerable. so we'll see. >> so ana, do you think that the debt ceiling will set the tone between the president and congress? >> no. i think we're going to get a short reprieve. i think we're talking about, you know, what the republicans were talking about, i was actually at the gop retreat that maria just referenced and it's a possible three-month extension. but at some point, the problem, the whole problem, has got to be dealt with in a holistic way. the deficit has got to be dealt with. debt has got to be dealt with. spending has got to be dealt with. we can't just continue raising the debt limit without there bei
on the debt ceiling, backing onshore flow a requirement to cut $1 for every dollar raised. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt we've got to have a he can to us beyond budget and what we're going to do to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> a great opportunity for us. in our budget that we will pass, we will have tax reform which many of my republican colleagues like but it's going to include revenues. >> the house is expected to approve the debt limit increase tomorrow. >>> the super bowl will be in new orleans, but police are getting ready for potential problems in san francisco. they arrested a dozen people in the mission district sunday as fans celebrated the 49'ers win in atlanta. most of them were for public intoxication. there were arrests for dui, assault and an outstanding warrant, no reports of vandalism. >>> not to get ahead, but why not? it's worth noting more than a dozen cities had multiple sports championships in a single year. but since super bowl era, only four. baltimore did it in 1970. pittsburgh in 1979. new
to stop holding us hostage with the spending cuts to the debt ceiling. people are starting to feel a little bit more optimistic that might be less of an issue going forward. i still think it is a great focus people are afraid. we're pretty complacent and the volumes are really waiting to see what will happen in washington, i think. liz: charlie, you're looking at 13.25, again, another historic low for the volatility index. it is not telling me anything. what indicators to look at as a trader in the pit? >> i look at moving averages. take a look, the s&p has really held on to the moving average and a few breaks every time it has bounced off, you're doing pretty well. you look at what came out midsession today, and we're going sideways to a little higher. business activity is kind of sideways, you mentioned the housing market is starting to show some signs of life. if we can get the bankers doing quite well in terms of the stock, but in terms of generating the loans, we went from one end of the pendulum to free money and anybody who wants it to really constricting and making refinanc
with congress but republicans want any increase in the debt ceiling to be tied to spending cuts. >>> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and so -- there is a very simple solution to this. >> now, in a statement, john boehner indicated the republican party is prepared for a fight. he said "the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are rule but so are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved." >>> state lawmakers in sacramento are closely watching this debate in washington. the concern is that if congress doesn't act on the debt ceiling, the national economy could dip and that would likely have a negative effect on california's budget numbers. push >> the biggest risk to our forecast or the analysts' forecasts could come next month and that's from washington, d.c. >> the 2013 budget release by governor brown showed a surplus for the first time in many years and that was thanks to new tax revenue from proposition 30 as well as spending cuts. >>> oakland police investigating a shooting that seriously injure
. remember, raising the debt ceiling isn't additional spending but allows the government to pay the bills it's already racked up on money it's already spent. today, fitch ratings which sets credit ratings for countries around the world warned the u.s. could lose the aaa rating, the highest there is, if there's not a quote median-term deficit reduction plan put in place. what will it take to get a deal? we start with dan gross. his latest piece is titled "obama brinksmanship puts gop in tough spot on debt ceiling." so dan, you write that while you fall off a cliff, you only bump your head in to a ceiling but economically the ceiling has the capacity to deliver far more damage. you are talking like my friend steve kornacki here. what is failing to raise the debt ceiling? why is that going to be catastrophic? >> well, you know, first of all the stock and bond markets will really go haywire in a way they didn't when we were about to go over the fiscal cliff because government bonds are held by everybody. chinese central bank, japanese central bank, every single bank financial institution out the
're coming into it with bad feelings because the spending cuts and the debt ceiling, spending was pushed out of this big compromise that scared us with the word "cliff" that was somehow created by the media. where we stand today, the president hitting the note of we, the people, we have to work together seems to be somewhat of an effective flash point because people are there and see it nowhere more than on economic questions. so when we were asking people around the country what do you want to see? going together, almost like a couple were two ideas, one, you have to stop the left/right game. it's too much. we know that is your game but you must stop it and he seemed to respond to that. where they want to see that stop the most is on the creation of jobs. they condemn the stock market. that 'not where the country is. we're hurting and you'll see it. here's what people had to say about what they want the president to do, what he must do to succeed when it comes to the economy. ♪ >> i want to tell the president about the economy to stop spending money that we don't have. it's nice to want t
to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexing to try to attach that to a debt-limit deal. do they move beyond the debt limit, try to get to the continuing resolutions and those kinds of things? they recognize that this is the only area of leverage that they have, but they want to be careful about it. >> so chuck todd, how does the white house deal with that supposed leverage? >> well, first i think the republicans are hoping that they have a manti te'o defense, that somehow it was all a hoax and maybe the election was a hoax and they can go back and
to the debt ceiling, the debt ceiling, by definition, isn't about authorization new spending. it is about paying the bills that we have already racked up. so are you just trying to say that you want to have this conversation together, at the same time? >> this is about, this is -- raising the debt ceiling is like raising your credit card limit. and historically, this has been a debate. you look over the last four presidents in this country, and there's been a debate, every time, it has come to raising the debt ceiling. because there's a recognition, for years now, that the federal government has been spending way more than it should, way beyond its means, much more than it's actually bringing in. and now, it is -- we cannot continue to kick this can down the road. we've come to the end of the road. it is time for us to stop spending money we don't have. >> former republican speaker newt gingrich is not exactly conflict averse, i think you'd agree, and he has warned the house republicans not to take up this debt ceiling fight. listen. >> asking barack obama not to be a big-spending, high-t
that and it goes on. host: where do you insist on spending cuts? is that the debt ceiling or the continuing resolution? guest: it is that every point. host: all of the above? guest: yes. when the president says he wants a balanced approach, i believe him. i was looking for the simpson- bowles model, fighting for least 2 to 1. i was hoping for 1 to 1. i was disappointed and deeply surprised we did not get that in this fiscal cliff. here i was as a republican, so often introduced on tv shows and news shows, "coming up, a republican who says we need higher revenues." an interesting way to introduce me, but my position is more nuanced than that, although i think we do need to get. host: new revenue includes four deductions and loopholes, but the president mentioned yesterday. is that still on the table? guest: it is for me. i thought that was the way to go from the beginning. eliminate loopholes and a lobbyist-britain loopholes. i also thought capping deductions, just knowing the nature of man, how we are motivated, that being able to keep an extra incremental dollar bill does motivate an entre
sound arcane can involve terminology like raising the debt ceiling for spending in the out years or entitlement reform, these are issues that matter deeply to everyday americans and affect their livelihood and affect there, you know, their potential and the american economy. so he thinks the american people care. he thinks that they want to hear from their leaders in washington about the things that they are debating here. i think he will absolutely continue to engage the american people on the policy proposals he is putting forward. >> jackie. >> thank you. >> aegis said it is another choice. last summer you said the president has not spoken ever with a certain senator about emigration. he came out and laid out his key points. as the president or anyone else from the white house spoken to him about it? >> i think senator rubio at the time had, i think, i think, demonstrated and reported absence of support among republican leaders for even the issues that he was discussing. the president has put forward, and their is a blueprint on the website that demonstrates this, an approach
to fight over. is it debt ceiling, is it sequestration, is it the resolution later in march? they could use that bell to call them to order there but it's hard to think that they could find a path. you've got on the one hand, a lot of distension in the rarngs there. but, also, just public opinion seems to be stacked against them. they're on the wrong side of so many issues. they seem to be wanting to plot a course right in the near term. but i think on the other hand, if you look at what democrats are doing, they're trying to chart a course that looks more like where america is more broadly. of course it would put them in good standing for 2014 and 2016. >> now, wes, when we look at the fact that they seem to be further and further away. committee reports that many republicans scoff at the idea of a debt ceiling disaster. and it reads, let me read this to you, to these conservatives, hitting the debt ceiling is no armageddon and the idea of default is just a scare tactic. and they claim not to be frightened. i mean, we could have different opinions, but we can't have different facts. the de
ceiling, and the possibility of severe spending cuts in 2013 have the potential to really stop this recovery in its tracks. one thing you will notice from our forecast table is that the recession probabilities from the committee are higher than normal. we still have the probability of a recession at 23% and for 2014, 20%. that is a little bit higher than what we typically see. we think the private sector is poised for sustainable growth. i think the housing numbers point to one area of strength, the housing market. the tax hikes at the start of 2013 will create a drag on gdp of at least 1.25%. the potential for additional budget and spending cuts from sequestration could add to the downside risks. we think resolving the debt ceiling in a timely manner and providing more clarity on policies could actually generate a boost in confidence and open the door for faster growth in the second half of 2013. looking at the labor market, we see lackluster growth in 2013 wing on job creation. we actually see gains of slowing in the first half of 2013 before picking up. it is a little bit sl
republicans who decided not to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip in the fight to cut spending the the vote including a provision requiring congress to approve budgets and withholding pay for lawmakers until that happens. urn the legislation, they suspend the debt ceiling through may 18th, and congress raises the by whatever debt was incurred at the time. i don't know how you do that. just expand the ceiling. just not going to pay the credit cards. we don't care. meanwhile, as the dead line approaches, there's a chance the tax refund could be at risk. joining me is the managing direct for wealth health financial planning. rich, great to have you on the show. here's the deal. so congress has enough money to go through february 15th, mid february, about the time everybody starts trying to get the tax refunds. they file taxes. now, i know you are against refunds, but do you think it's possible they delay refunds? >> i'm hopeful it's not. i think the reality is congress will do the right thing. possibly suspend the debt ceiling, allow for, you know, lenders to get paid both, you kn
blasting republicans for refusing to negotiate. and they fired back that the debate over the debt ceiling was the perfect time to consider legislation to cut spending. at the same time, only a handful of republicans have actually said they'd let the united states default on its bills. >> t predent claims this, but republicans have always raised the debt ceiling. we've never seen the debt limit fail to be raised. all they have said is we want to apply the same criteria that the president himself applied when he was a senator and say we don't want to give the president a blank check. we would like to fix the substantive problem which is the level and the growth in the debt. >> reporter: markets are almost treating the fight over the debt ceiling as the sequel to a bad movie. and investors have a pretty good feel for how this cliffhanger ends. >> they don't really care about the brinksmanship until they are right up to the brink, but also, the more dangerous the fall, off the brink, they figure the less likely tt it going to happen. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner told congr
, either right now, at the end of february or if we kick it forward to the end of april, the debt ceiling itself, they all become moments to talk about spending sequestration, is -- we need to stop spending, we need to reduce spending, but, it would be better if we could figure out how to do that in a targeted away or and across-the-board way and the worst way to have spending cuts, we can't decide how to cut anything and we'll cut everything a little bit and that is not the right thing to do and hopefully, we can find a better solution to sequestration, in the arm services committee and other places. >> chris: let's talk about another item on the agenda. you have an a-rating from the national rifle association and this week you accused the president of trying to -- wanting to try to take away our constitutional right when it comes to the right to bear arms and mr. obama says that he is protecting other rights. take a look: >> president barack obama: that most fundamental set of rights to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, fundamental rights that were denied to college student
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